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Post by crazymike2021 on Jul 30, 2008 22:45:35 GMT -5
I do not understand why you would deal a player with such ratings at that age with A potential, EVEN IF, you know nothing about it. I am not sure if this trade should go through, i think it is pretty bad. I am surprised you did not take my offer mike on a smaller scale, different players, but it would have helped IMO. Also my pick will suck. You just told me today you was not planing on winning this year. Plus it say its A in POT. That does not mean it is. I was just going off the fact I was told his inside went down and REB went up. So i didn't think his real POT was an A.
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Post by DB on Jul 30, 2008 22:49:26 GMT -5
I do not understand why you would deal a player with such ratings at that age with A potential, EVEN IF, you know nothing about it. I am not sure if this trade should go through, i think it is pretty bad. I am surprised you did not take my offer mike on a smaller scale, different players, but it would have helped IMO. Also my pick will suck. You just told me today you was not planing on winning this year. Plus it say its A in POT. That does not mean it is. I was just going off the fact I was told his inside went down and REB went up. So i didn't think his real POT was an A. fact is, A pot is A pot. You have no need for any of these players you got. You are rebuilding and this guy looks like a promising young center. Plus I never said I was not trying to win, I do not recall ever saying that. Maybe I said I am open to trades but I am trying to win.
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Post by James on Jul 31, 2008 1:39:48 GMT -5
What a fool.
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Post by w6602876 on Jul 31, 2008 9:19:05 GMT -5
Crazymike, you realized you didn't even put up a trade block since coming back into the league. How do you even know you got the best offer for your players?
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Post by jayborne on Jul 31, 2008 10:35:13 GMT -5
You are not a target by me...I voice my opinion in a lot of trade threads, thats just how i am....Mike sucks as a GM i have no clue why ducky let him back in the league to be honest. and this is coming come you? Who made you god of GMs? I'm not at all a bad GM. I have been GM of the year in three sims and came in 2nd place in UOSL1. Plus I got fired in the first place for not being on here that much. it had nothing to do with my GMing. Plus my team were alway in the playoff but maybe two season and that was just becuse i was rebuilding so what ever. I've never been GM of the year and have 3 championships in this league.
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Post by shaunkol on Jul 31, 2008 10:38:52 GMT -5
there is no way this trade is vetoable.
do you guys not take any consideration the fact that he will have 26M in cap space available as opposed to the 12M he would have had?
paolisso was a steal at #20 and adding a solid 1st to him, 12M in cap space and a better player in Claver than Prince is definitely not vetoable
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Post by Play on Jul 31, 2008 11:13:37 GMT -5
i knew/know as much about Okoro as mike. When this draft occurred I wasnt even thinking about young guys. The only research I did was checking his ratings when he was drafted. I also saw that he actually had a weird/bad TC last time and had his inside scoring decrease while only improving in rebounding. Why would you want him if he had a weird/bad TC?
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Post by shaunkol on Jul 31, 2008 11:35:02 GMT -5
i knew/know as much about Okoro as mike. When this draft occurred I wasnt even thinking about young guys. The only research I did was checking his ratings when he was drafted. I also saw that he actually had a weird/bad TC last time and had his inside scoring decrease while only improving in rebounding. Why would you want him if he had a weird/bad TC? thats retarded. im not saying he sucks, obviously. but a bad TC from a young big man does give you pause. it should be a factor in considering the fairness of this trade
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Post by crazymike2021 on Jul 31, 2008 11:45:48 GMT -5
If you guys want me to resign thats fine. I f*** up big time and if it need to happen then i'll do it. I was just trying to get thing moving on this team. To me the guys not going to be as goood as all you you think but I could be wrong and thats part of being a GM. Yes I should had made a trade block. Thats my bad and a dumb move. But if you guys think its a move thats so bad that i need to resign I will.
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Post by Play on Jul 31, 2008 11:47:45 GMT -5
Why would you want him if he had a weird/bad TC? thats retarded. im not saying he sucks, obviously. but a bad TC from a young big man does give you pause. it should be a factor in considering the fairness of this trade How was it a bad tc obviously hes borderline B-/B inside and he improved his rebounding this past TC....I wouldn't consider it a bad TC...If it was you wouldn't have traded for him.
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Post by shaunkol on Jul 31, 2008 12:23:20 GMT -5
If you guys want me to resign thats fine. I f*** up big time and if it need to happen then i'll do it. I was just trying to get thing moving on this team. To me the guys not going to be as goood as all you you think but I could be wrong and thats part of being a GM. Yes I should had made a trade block. Thats my bad and a dumb move. But if you guys think its a move thats so bad that i need to resign I will. this is a fucking joke if a GM is forced to resign over this trade. not 1 person has responded to my points about why the trade is reasonable yet. (cap space being the main point)
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Post by ib4 on Jul 31, 2008 13:47:03 GMT -5
let the trade go thru, we've seen much worse in UOSL
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Post by DB on Jul 31, 2008 14:40:02 GMT -5
there is no way this trade is vetoable. do you guys not take any consideration the fact that he will have 26M in cap space available as opposed to the 12M he would have had? paolisso was a steal at #20 and adding a solid 1st to him, 12M in cap space and a better player in Claver than Prince is definitely not vetoable who cares about cap space, he just get up a good prospect. You can unload salary and not have to deal that kind of talent.
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Post by aar on Jul 31, 2008 14:56:16 GMT -5
4th overall two years ago: N-Kewerin Okoro C 6'11'' 260 20 B- D+ C+ C+ C+ A Now: N-Kewerin Okoro C 22 6'11'' 262 B- C- C+ B B+ A
Trading him for more cap space and a decent prospect selected in the late 1st round is a joke.
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Post by Ducky on Jul 31, 2008 15:27:58 GMT -5
Wow Mike, shit deal. Okoro is arguably one of the best centers still on a rookie contract.
Paolisso isn't much. Had a nice TC, but he's nothing more then a solid young player. Like aar said, to trade a potential stud big man for a late first player and cap space is silly. Especially since Prince's contract comes off the book next season anyway. If his contract was like 4 or 5 years, this would have made more sense.
VETO
But Mike stays.
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