Post by DB on Dec 29, 2008 12:51:35 GMT -5
Not every player can hit a 95 mph fastball or throw one that does not mean they are not really good baseball players. They just have different strengths, some throw 100, some can throw 80 mph and get by, either way they are athletes because they have made it to the majors. It is not about the all time batting average, it is about hitting a baseball. Making contact in general is hard and hoping you get a hit is hard. Some people can not do this, some could never make it professionally that is why they are considered athletes. All the workouts they do, warm ups, preparation in the off season. A few fat pitchers and hitters give you something to "make fun" of baseball with, it is a wrong perception. These guys can still throw and hit, that is the point. That is why baseball is great.
It is a team sport if you want to win a WS... What sport is not about individual statistics? Basketball, football, etc.. they are about team and individual stats, so your argument there does not make any sense.
Than why did you point out about hitting a 95 mph fastball if even some "professional athletes” can’t do it? So just because someone makes it to the majors they are “athletes?” Wow, great argument there.
Yes, hitting a baseball is hard. Just like hitting a golf ball x amount of yards in a straight line is tough to. I wouldn’t call them athletes though, I’ll call them “skilled-players.” Golf, baseball to me is a skill, it’s not “athletic” by any means. You don’t have to be the strongest, fastest player to play either of the two sports and be “successful.”
What workouts do they do in baseball that could possibly compare to a football, basketball, soccer, etc off-season? There is NO comparison. Spring training is a joke. It’s a bunch of meaningless games where the majority of the time the “stars” play 1 or 2 innings. The only baseball players that I consider athletes are those players that play multi-sports i.e. Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, etc. THOSE were athletes and there is a reason why they preferred football over baseball.
Any game where it has more than one person on the field, is a “team sport” obviously, but that wasn’t my point. My point was that team stats mean nothing in baseball. Yes there are individual statistics in basetball and football, but team statistics are much more important. Since when in baseball do you hear analysts talk about “well the Yankees have held the last 3 opponents to 3 runs per game” exactly, it doesn’t happen. It’s always this player has this many HRs or this many strikeouts.
Football and Basketball team statistics are much more important than individual statistics and that’s a fact.
The fact that they are athletes is because they can throw 95 mph or however fast you want to put a number down. Can basketball players throw that fast, No. Football, No. Could they hit a baseball, No. That is just the sport, they are good at their sport and they are considered athletes. No they do not have to be the strongest or the fastest, but you have to be able to hit a baseball, throw one, catch one, I would charter that to being ATHLETIC. You have to have some athletic ability and that is a fact and there is no way you can dispute that. There are plenty of athletes in baseball, just because they are not jumping to dunk a ball or tackling someone does not make them any less of an athlete.
Was I comparing the work outs in the off season to those OTHER SPORTS? NO. I said what they do as baseball players is a lot of work in general, they are not just sitting around, being lazy, they guys work hard in the off season for the long season. Spring training, is just getting warmed up for the season, is it not the same thing for basketball and football preseason games.
Team stats vs individual stats is a dumb argument. Their are plenty of team stats in baseball that are talked about. They always talk about a team era, team runs, offense avg, errors, obp, ETC ETC, Yes, individual stats play a huge role but, it does so in basketball and football as well.
"Football and Basketball team statistics are much more important than individual statistics and that’s a fact."
that is not a fact. Since when is what LBJ stats are vs how much the team is scoring more important. yeah right. It varies, neither is more important. They both are the same through out all three sports.
