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Post by idlewildsouth70 on Oct 12, 2007 11:28:54 GMT -5
Duce you're coming off sounding pretty bitter about Romo, trying to say he would only improve a small handful of teams. This is obviously a hypothetical situation so you can assume he went through all the summer minicamps, trainingcamp, preseason, etc and their offensive coordinator calls plays to best utilize his talents.
Seems to me Romo is in that 2nd tier of QBs behind the elite ones like Manning, Brady, Palmer, Favre? this season. He's certainly a helluva lot better than injury-proned Chad Pennington and Culpepper.
You can add the Panthers to your pathetic list, or you can start telling us why Vinny Testaverde is better than Romo.
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Post by gotrunks226 on Oct 12, 2007 14:20:11 GMT -5
Romo sucks, everybody shut up.. Ryan Leaf is better than Romo ok? So shut up.
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Post by crazymike2021 on Oct 12, 2007 15:54:22 GMT -5
Romo sucks, everybody shut up.. Ryan Leaf is better than Romo ok? So shut up. I don't think he sucks but I do think we need to shut up seeing that no one here is going to say the other person was right. |
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Post by duce on Oct 12, 2007 16:28:51 GMT -5
Right now Romo is better then Pennington. Pennington has not been that good in the last three years. Culpepper is in the same boat as Pennington. Green was a great QB but not anymore. I will say this. If you went to anyone of them team GM and ask if they would take Romo they would say yes. I'm not here to say Romo is the best all I'm saying is he is a good QB. Ever time someone talks about him ever one talks like his the best or he sucks. He just a good QB. Plus I do think the number would go down with out TO but what QBs number would not if you took there Number one WR off the team. No, Romo is not better than Pennington. I won't even talk about this, because it's a joke. Anyone who has seen Pennington play could never possibly say this. Green is not a good QB anymore? Why? I don't recall him doing ANYTHING to make me think this. He plays behind a shit oline and still gets it done better than any of his predecessors. It's not so much that his numbers would go down without Owens, it's that they would be very negative... possibly more INTs than TDs type of bad. And I'm not saying he's the worst, I just don't think he's as good as you do, and the hype for him is out of hand. |
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Post by duce on Oct 12, 2007 16:32:50 GMT -5
Duce you're coming off sounding pretty bitter about Romo, trying to say he would only improve a small handful of teams. This is obviously a hypothetical situation so you can assume he went through all the summer minicamps, trainingcamp, preseason, etc and their offensive coordinator calls plays to best utilize his talents. Seems to me Romo is in that 2nd tier of QBs behind the elite ones like Manning, Brady, Palmer, Favre? this season. He's certainly a helluva lot better than injury-proned Chad Pennington and Culpepper. You can add the Panthers to your pathetic list, or you can start telling us why Vinny Testaverde is better than Romo. I actually wanted to add Carolina, but when I thought about it, I thought "gee, Delhomme is actually very similar to Romo... he can run around, his arm is not that good, and he benefited from great receivers... except unlike Romo he's actually gotten it done in the playoffs". But I guess it's debatable, I wouldn't rip anyone who thought Romo was better. As for Romo being 2nd tier. Obviously I disagree, I don't feel like repeating everything I've said though. Is he in a position where he can use his particular talents to play like a 2nd tier QB? Absolutely. I suppose that's what matters in the end but I still don't love the hype he's getting. |
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Post by idlewildsouth70 on Oct 12, 2007 16:39:56 GMT -5
Dallas Cowboys. America's Team. It's been 10 years. They're back. They're going to get talked about. Lot of people will hate them. Cowboy fans will enjoy it.
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Post by DB on Oct 12, 2007 16:44:02 GMT -5
Pennington is one of the most accurate qbs in the game, because of a bad arm, but still, that is nasty.
I really haven't seen romo play that much to discuss him.
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Post by duce on Oct 12, 2007 16:48:42 GMT -5
The only thing I hate is when there's a formed opinion that I believe to be way off. It would be much more pleasant if people were collectively saying "Romo is an up and coming QB, but still has a long way to go. His numbers might be a little inflated due to the talent around him but results are results and he still could have a very bright future ahead of him..."
This is very far from what I'm hearing. Can't help it if I don't like this. If I sound bitter to ya, then it is what it is.
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Post by Bluedevil$ on Oct 12, 2007 21:03:32 GMT -5
The thing that irks me about Romo is that he tries to force plays. I've seen him try to escape a blitz and erratically throw it in the middle of the field to a receiver who makes a crazy catch, and then commentators are kissing his ass for making this fluky play. In reality, more times than not it's not going to work, and that's what happened against Buffalo. He needs to learn to throw it away or even take the sack, but it will catch up with him.
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Post by crazymike2021 on Oct 12, 2007 22:56:39 GMT -5
The thing that irks me about Romo is that he tries to force plays. I've seen him try to escape a blitz and erratically throw it in the middle of the field to a receiver who makes a crazy catch, and then commentators are kissing his ass for making this fluky play. In reality, more times than not it's not going to work, and that's what happened against Buffalo. He needs to learn to throw it away or even take the sack, but it will catch up with him. All I can say to that is Favre |
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Post by duce on Oct 12, 2007 23:21:46 GMT -5
The thing that irks me about Romo is that he tries to force plays. I've seen him try to escape a blitz and erratically throw it in the middle of the field to a receiver who makes a crazy catch, and then commentators are kissing his ass for making this fluky play. In reality, more times than not it's not going to work, and that's what happened against Buffalo. He needs to learn to throw it away or even take the sack, but it will catch up with him. All I can say to that is Favre that's the problem right there. the favre comparisons are a joke. favre's arm and romo's arm are very very very very very far from comparable. and the other thing is favre didn't make bad throws back then that would ultimately be costly. that is only a recent trait of his. favre dominated ball games.... dominated. oh my gosh, this is... wow. i don't know how favre and romo can even be in the same sentence although i think i just did that in this sentence and i'm making myself wanna puke in doing so. |
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Post by duce on Oct 12, 2007 23:24:45 GMT -5
i don't wanna do this anymore, thinking he's better than pennington and others is one thing but i'm not going to stoop so low as to debate he and favre, it's obvious the view of him is so high that people no longer care about reason anymore. absolute joke, i'm done.
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Post by crazymike2021 on Oct 13, 2007 0:01:23 GMT -5
All I was saying is in that way Favre does the same thing. Favre is the one guy that does thing a QB should never do and it pulls it out. I'm not the frist to say Romo plays LIKE him and I'm not saying is as good as him. eople said Favre was never going to make it becuse the shit he does but that why his good. I watched a thing on NFL about Favre. It was talking about a coach making a tape of all his INT and one of all his TDs and when he was watching it it was the same for both. Favre has always been know for not doing the smart move out there but some how he makes it work. Some what liek Romo. Am I saying Romo is as good right now no but they play alike. Did you watch Favre when he frist got the starting job in Green Bay?
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Post by duce on Oct 13, 2007 13:20:42 GMT -5
You seem to be missing the part that Favre has the velocity and accuracy to make throws that no other human could. Or the fact that Favre is intelligent and fast at reading coverages.
The comparison is a joke. Romo hasn't made the throws Favre has. Just because they both make stupid throws, does not mean they're alike. If Romo tried to make some of the throws Favre made, he'd lose his job. The stats Romo compiles is the very opposite, the receivers are open, they're one on one, they're T.O. . This is not comparable. I don't care who says it or how many say it, the world can be on Romo's nuts for all I care, it's all a load of bullshit.
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Post by crazymike2021 on Oct 13, 2007 14:07:28 GMT -5
Thats just it. Like I said before it like you love him or hate him.I'm just sick of people having to pick a side. People who love him want to make him out to be a god and people who hate him are going to ant to make it out as he sucks. His a good QB and can become great. I don't see why people have to put him down or make him out to be a god. Plus I don't care if he has TO. Alot of great QBs had Great WRs. Favre does not and has never been knowen for great accuracy Reading coverages. Plus How many games have you seen Romo in and Favre in? I just watched a highlight of them showing how Romo and Favre play the same. But I also know your going to come back and say that bull shit and soo on and there nothing i can say to get you to see him as what he is. I get why you are sick of people talking about him. Most people want to make him in to something his not, but your on the other half of people that are just sick of hearing it and you want to say he sick just becuse your sick of the other side talking like his a god. All i'm ging to say is this. Last year he was a pro bowl QB and had a good year and his doing a good job this year too. His young and should get better and for the people that say he can't get it done in the playoff. His been in the playoff just one time and the play that cost them the game he should had never been out there holding the ball anyways.
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