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Post by ib4 on Jan 9, 2009 3:32:32 GMT -5
if we're going retro or whatever, dont go too far back in the past or else i wont be interested.
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Post by zyme on Jan 9, 2009 3:58:13 GMT -5
That is why i think the early ninties would be best. My vote is 1989, Jordan at his peak, Robinson as a rookie, Bird still around. I always feel that was the transition year on the path to modern basketball.
That or 1984 and the Jordan Draft (Maybe have Bowie actually become the player he was sopposed to be and not the injury prone flop)
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Post by Play on Jan 9, 2009 4:15:20 GMT -5
just send me the current file at the end of the season...and Ill be for a restart
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Post by gotrunks226 on Jan 9, 2009 6:04:30 GMT -5
Hmmm.. I think even with a restart certain GMs will still tank from the beginning for decades and decades.. maybe insert a rule saying you can only tank for a certain amount of years or you'd be fired? I don't know, something needs to be done about it.
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Post by w6602876 on Jan 9, 2009 10:10:11 GMT -5
Why the hell is that funny. I'm the most active person here on the trade blocks, I think its pathetic that I don't want to restart considering how much better your team is. You're a wuss if you think we should restart. Just take a second to read over your post and realize that it makes no sense. First off the whole LOL thing was a joke. Second, how could it possibly be pathetic that I want a restart? Since I have a more established teams and better players than you I should be against a restart, but I am not, for the greatest good of the league. Someone in your position has the most to gain from a restart. If we were to restart, I would much MUCH more active and it would be considerably more fun. Nearly everyone would agree with me on this. You have to be blind to see that the league is falling apart and standing by and watching it while someone posts for the thousandth time that we need more active GM's is not going to solve anything. Your post made zero sense, sorry to break it to you. You didn't disprove a single thing. Too bad your lazy that you can't keep up with your team. Everyone who has quit the last 2-3 months, they are also pussies. They all left after TC after realizing they fucked up in a trade.
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Post by jayborne on Jan 9, 2009 10:13:32 GMT -5
The league needs more GM's like W.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Jan 9, 2009 11:16:56 GMT -5
Hmmm.. I think even with a restart certain GMs will still tank from the beginning for decades and decades.. maybe insert a rule saying you can only tank for a certain amount of years or you'd be fired? I don't know, something needs to be done about it. Easy solution... use what we use in BBS. The Contract YearIf you go 3 years without winning 40, or making the playoffs you will enter your Contract Year. If you fail to make the playoffs in the fourth season, you will be fired.
If you are immediately rehired after losing your job to the Contract Year you get a 3 year window instead of a four year window. and have a Team Direction Board where someone handles keeping a record of this i.e. fbb2.proboards53.com/index.cgi?board=direction
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Post by Andrew on Jan 9, 2009 11:25:23 GMT -5
Just take a second to read over your post and realize that it makes no sense. First off the whole LOL thing was a joke. Second, how could it possibly be pathetic that I want a restart? Since I have a more established teams and better players than you I should be against a restart, but I am not, for the greatest good of the league. Someone in your position has the most to gain from a restart. If we were to restart, I would much MUCH more active and it would be considerably more fun. Nearly everyone would agree with me on this. You have to be blind to see that the league is falling apart and standing by and watching it while someone posts for the thousandth time that we need more active GM's is not going to solve anything. Your post made zero sense, sorry to break it to you. You didn't disprove a single thing. Too bad your lazy that you can't keep up with your team. Everyone who has quit the last 2-3 months, they are also pussies. They all left after TC after realizing they fucked up in a trade. Let me start of by saying that once again, yours was a useless post. I was not out to disprove anything. The general rule is that teams with established players are more against a restart. All you did was indirectly call me a pussy. I'm sorry, what have you done here lately? Bitch about drafting busts? Yeah, that sounds about right. It is a sad reflection of your GM'ing ability when you care about the league signifigantly more than I do (You even stated it in your one of your previous posts "I'm the most active on the trade blocks") and yet my team is still consistently better than yours, in a tougher conference no less. You're the lone renegade in the battle against a restart. If you have a better idea, then by all means indulge us. You would have to be blind to not realize what is happening here.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 9, 2009 11:27:02 GMT -5
Hmmm.. I think even with a restart certain GMs will still tank from the beginning for decades and decades.. maybe insert a rule saying you can only tank for a certain amount of years or you'd be fired? I don't know, something needs to be done about it. Easy solution... use what we use in BBS. The Contract YearIf you go 3 years without winning 40, or making the playoffs you will enter your Contract Year. If you fail to make the playoffs in the fourth season, you will be fired.
If you are immediately rehired after losing your job to the Contract Year you get a 3 year window instead of a four year window. and have a Team Direction Board where someone handles keeping a record of this i.e. fbb2.proboards53.com/index.cgi?board=directionChris, as you well know the premise behind the Contract Year was that there were very good/active GM's on the waiting list. Something that UOSL hasn't had for quite a while and is one of the reasons why it is starting to fold.
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Post by w6602876 on Jan 9, 2009 11:33:15 GMT -5
Your post made zero sense, sorry to break it to you. You didn't disprove a single thing. Too bad your lazy that you can't keep up with your team. Everyone who has quit the last 2-3 months, they are also pussies. They all left after TC after realizing they fucked up in a trade. Let me start of by saying that once again, yours was a useless post. I was not out to disprove anything. The general rule is that teams with established players are more against a restart. All you did was indirectly call me a pussy. I'm sorry, what have you done here lately? Bitch about drafting busts? Yeah, that sounds about right. It is a sad reflection of your GM'ing ability when you care about the league signifigantly more than I do (You even stated it in your one of your previous posts "I'm the most active on the trade blocks") and yet my team is still consistently better than yours, in a tougher conference no less. You're the lone renegade in the battle against a restart. If you have a better idea, then by all means indulge us. You would have to be blind to not realize what is happening here. Do you bother reading the posts you write? "The general rule is that teams with established players are more against a restart" Do you even know what a rule is? Re-read what you wrote previously, it doesn't make sense. You aren't even making a point let alone a refutation. My post wasn't useless, I pointed out a fact how GM's have left because of a stupid trade they made. Your team is getting older and you're a pussy since you couldn't get to the finals, you will now have to face the fact of rebuilding AGAIN. And your too much of a pussy to do it.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Jan 9, 2009 11:44:48 GMT -5
Chris, as you well know the premise behind the Contract Year was that there were very good/active GM's on the waiting list. Something that UOSL hasn't had for quite a while and is one of the reasons why it is starting to fold. then let's have 20 people tanking for 10 seasons
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Post by ashes on Jan 9, 2009 12:31:15 GMT -5
i say we start in 1990 or somewhere around there, league last a lot longer. Main problem is that then teams know when to tank for good players and who will turn out good. Everyone knows that Kobe, KG, ect.. will be studs. It would be interesting though if the drafts throughout there were kinda switched around. If everyone thinks Kobe is gonna come out in this year...make him go to college for a year. Would also be nice to have some of the busts (kandi, bradley) be solid players or possibly studs. I'm not a fan of the fantasy draft idea. It will take a while to get everyone and start a draft. I say give everyone a random number, draft numbers and let people pick teams that way (like this league did). If we start back that far, I would not be a fan of keeping the incoming draft classes the same as real life. (Timing) That's the one thing I hate about Retro: pre-determination.
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Post by ashes on Jan 9, 2009 12:31:57 GMT -5
just send me the current file at the end of the season...and Ill be for a restart Heh. That's an odd request.
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Post by crazymike2021 on Jan 9, 2009 12:44:39 GMT -5
Main problem is that then teams know when to tank for good players and who will turn out good. Everyone knows that Kobe, KG, ect.. will be studs. It would be interesting though if the drafts throughout there were kinda switched around. If everyone thinks Kobe is gonna come out in this year...make him go to college for a year. Would also be nice to have some of the busts (kandi, bradley) be solid players or possibly studs. I'm not a fan of the fantasy draft idea. It will take a while to get everyone and start a draft. I say give everyone a random number, draft numbers and let people pick teams that way (like this league did). If we start back that far, I would not be a fan of keeping the incoming draft classes the same as real life. (Timing) That's the one thing I hate about Retro: pre-determination. I don't see a reason why we would have too. I think we could mix it up alit.
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Post by DB on Jan 9, 2009 12:55:42 GMT -5
Its easy to mix up the drafts and future players in the league if the draft maker can do it right... Like spencer said things happen in FBB. I mean we can make it so kobe holds out for another year, tmac comes out in 2 years instead of HS, etc etc... It is not that hard, things like this can be done...
1990 is a good year IMO, good way to start things out. A Fantasy draft will be a lot of fun if every gm is involved and active. The only problem I see is a lot of UOSL2 gms are not that active as they should be which could be a problem...
The contract year being implemented here would literally have a SO MANY gm turn overs it would be incredible. We would not have enough gms to fill up these teams. they could not handle it.
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